In the 20th century, electricity sped up assembly lines considerably by giving machine tools individual motors, rather than keeping them dependent on belts off an overhead, steam-driven shaft. No, injection-molded stocks don’t warp like wood does, because they do not absorb atmospheric moisture. The accu-trigger on the Savage is wonderful and feels like it's adjusted to a 2 lbs pull. Mar 2, 2014 ... i'd spend a bit more and get a savage 11 XP, it is capable of well under 1moa. 08-31-2015, 08:35 PM #4. Both the Remington and Savage rifles are just a small part of the long American of history of affordable, mass-produced firearms. I’m looking to get an entry level bolt action rifle in 350 legend. This often mitigates floppy-fore-end syndrome considerably, but I eventually gave up on factory loads and tried a handload using the 180-grain Nosler Partition and 58.0 grains of Ramshot Hunter. My usual test for free-floating is to grasp the tip of the fore-end and the barrel in my right hand, and squeeze. I’m not a fan of the Winchester so that’s out. In fact the Mossberg’s action looks a lot like a Remington Model 700, and it’s the only rifle of the four to have a blind magazine. Apparently that model isn’t offered anymore, but mine has proven reliable on several rifles, with very repeatable adjustments. She likes more magnification than many hunters, normally leaving variables set on 10X, and has no difficulty killing big game even at 50 yards. However, I own a Remington 722 and a pair of Savage 23s, and only their ages and walnut stocks might qualify as “classic.” Otherwise they were indeed designed to be made less expensively and hence sell for less than competing rifles. Before you embark on a journey of revenge, dig two graves.”. Shop for Ruger American Rifle Standard 270 Ads Immediately . The fourth round was always a flier to the right. The ORYX is an affordable aluminum chassis that replaces your rifle stock to help provide a more accurate and ergonomic shooting experience. Such methods do not affect the handling qualities or functioning of a rifle, certainly, but neither do they add up to a gun that a guy’d want to own with pride.” Though written over half a century ago, the spirit of Wallack’s comments would fit right in among many Internet posts. That being said, the Savage is supposed to shoot amazingly well compared to many rifles. (This is a little strange, since Savage’s Accu-Trigger introduced the concept to American rifle shooters.) Don't need a show stopper, just something that will kill out to 300 which is more range than I'll ever need around here. Savage Axis. ... Savage Axis XP. In thanks for all my work, Eileen graciously loaned me her rifle to test a dozen handloads with bullets ranging from 35 to 64 grains. Three-shot groups ranged from 0.53 inches to 1.31 inches, and all the groups (including the Black Hills cloverleaf) averaged 0.92 inches. Check Price: Smith & Wesson M&P10 Sport: 16″ 20+1 ROUND: 8 lbs. Final Thoughts: Thompson Center Compass vs. Ruger American At this point, it’s highly likely that you already know what the rifles have to offer in term of features, accessories and so on. Was looking at the Ruger American Predator at one shop. Eastern Washington. She also doesn’t mind fixed-power scopes, so I suggested she try a new Bushnell Elite Tactical 10X40 mm sent for testing. ... Competition shooters can pick up the new Savage Axis Precision for $550 less than Savage’s Elite Precision rifle, … I see the main choices consist of Ruger American, Mossberg patriot, savage axis, and Winchester xpr. Savage’s Axis has two notable claims to fame: It is the progenitor of this entire family … just because of the savage 10 you have huge aftermarket support for everything. A review of the Ruger American can be found on the Rifle Information - Reviews page. I want to buy a new rifle. To prove that point, some historical perspective might be useful. Instead the fore-end shouldn’t touch the barrel when the rifle is fired; contact can affect barrel harmonics, resulting in off-the-mark shots, often called “fliers.” Many early injection-molded stocks were nearly as floppy as foot-long hot dogs, but even today’s stiffer stocks require more than dollar-bill fore-end clearance. check out the. the tikka t3 (or CTR model) is fantastic. But they don’t always come out of the mold absolutely straight, either. and .32-20 Win. Both have slightly off-line fore-ends, the Mossberg’s pressing against the left side of its barrel, and the Remington’s is flopping around on the underside of its barrel. Every part that can possibly be banged out on a punch press is banged out on a punch press, much to the sorrow of any real gun bug. One supposedly new way of marketing such guns is by referring to them as “affordable” or “value-priced,” but most Americans simply think of them as “cheap.” That has caused a good deal of grumbling, especially on the Internet, yet another new trend. Ruger American vs savage axis vs savage trophy hunter XP? For that matter, 2½ inches is good enough out to at least 200 yards for deer-size game. In the 1950s, believe it or not, only more expensive rifles came with recoil pads and sling swivels, and you had to pay a gunsmith to install them or do it yourself-which explains the lopsided recoil pads and off-center sling-swivels on many “classic” factory rifles. Ruger American-$300. American. If you think you might upgrade the rifle, I'd say Savage is what you seek. Oregon. If the barrel touches the fore-end, the stock’s not really free-floated, and the Ruger’s wasn’t floated quite enough. I sighted in with Black Hills 175-grain match loads left from another project, and the first three-shot group at 100 yards measured 0.34 inches center-to-center. Privacy Policy   •   Contact Us   •   Warnings   •   FAQs   •  © 2021 National Rifle Association of America, Women On Target® Instructional Shooting Clinics, Volunteer At The Great American Outdoor Show, Marion P. Hammer Women Of Distinction Award, Women's Wildlife Management / Conservation Scholarship, National Youth Shooting Sports Ambassadors, NRA Outstanding Achievement Youth Award Presented by Brownells, National Youth Shooting Sports Cooperative Program. E-mail your comments/questions about this site to:EmediaRifleman@nrahq.org For questions/comments about American Rifleman magazine, please e-mail:Publications@nrahq.org You can contact the NRA via phone at: NRA Member Programs1-800-672-3888, To advertise on American Rifleman, visit nramediakit.com for more information. I first fired an evaluation sample Ruger American on a combined long-range shooting school and hunt on the FTW Ranch in the Hill Country of Texas in September 2012. They include three locking lugs on the bolt, which allows for a lower bolt-throw and even distribution of the stresses imparted on the front of the action during firing. Savage Axis XP TrueTimber Kanati: 22″ 4 ROUND: 6.5 lbs. was not only effective on coyotes but pronghorns and deer. Savage Axis-$300. (In reality this isn’t an entirely inexpensive method, since the machinery for making synthetic stocks costs several hundred thousand dollars. : They’re still the least expensive rifles available in those “classic” chamberings. Photo courtesy of Savage. But when trying a new cartridge she often buys an economical rifle in case she doesn’t care for the new round. The Ruger and Savage have tang safeties, while the Remington and Mossberg have safety levers on the right side of the tang. Considering inflation since 1950, they all cost considerably less than the Remington 721/722 did, so they really are “valued priced,” something we should all value when trying to involve more kids in hunting and shooting sports. During the fall of 2013 the following prices appeared before, during and after big-game season in my part of Montana: While these rifles don’t look like the ones many hunters grew up shooting, they do not mean the end of civilization as we know it. Messages 729 Reactions 632. Savage Axis OR Ruger American? Anyone here have experience with these rifles in 350? Eileen owns some pretty nice hunting rifles, including a pre-World War II German combination gun, a New Ultra Lights Arms .257 Roberts and a Kilimanjaro .308 Win. Jump to page: Similar Threads. The other three use detachable-box magazines partly made of polymer, though in the Remington polymer parts are combined with sheet steel. Savage is a company that has been a long known for their value in the shooting world. These may well qualify them as classics in 2064. If $300-$400: Remington 700, Savage 11, or Howa. (Before anybody gets upset about the idea of using a “twenty-two” on big game, be aware that Montana allows their use and that the .22-250 Rem. I love savage but just didnt know how good those 11 th xp were so i ended up buying a ruger american predator in 6.5 creedmoor. Contrary to what many shooters believe, proper free-floating does not mean a folded dollar bill can be passed between barrel and fore-end. Eileen handloaded a batch of ammunition with one of the more accurate loads featuring the new Cutting Edge Raptor monolithic bullet, but, while sighting-in, she decided the scope was insufficient. with a very fancy walnut stock. Gurney said the rifle was designed by a committee-though fortunately not a government committee. Ruger American vs. TC Compass vs. Savage Axis, Vintage Boxes - Gear, Shell, Case, Primer, Group Buys Design, Active , Waiting and Archives, Closed Buys/Waiting for delivery/in shipment, If this is your first visit, be sure to Not bad for a “cheap” rifle! We have more info about Detail, Specification, Customer Reviews and Comparison Price. In fact, that is most of the reason for my Savage 23s in .25-20 Win. Back in Montana I cleaned the bore to bare steel (an easy job), and looked at it through a Hawkeye bore-scope. If you don't plan on making any changes to the rifle, either rifle will fit your needs in a budget hunting rifle. That can cause minor accuracy problems, since the four “fall-sale” rifles all supposedly have free-floated barrels. I hand tuned it to a crisp 4-pound pull. Ruger American Rifle Vs Savage Axis is best in online store. I would probably choose the patriot over the axis and this is coming from a Savage fan. The American's semi-vented recoil pad is functional, but again, intentionally ugly. The Remington 721/722 appeared in 1948, but before World War II Savage made an even less costly and simpler rifle called the Model 23. Savage Mark II Youth. if going savage consider the model 10. i've never been impressed with the axis especially the mags and their retention system. The Mossberg averaged 1.38 inches for three-shot groups with the Black Hills 175-grain match load that the Ruger American shot so well, and 0.99 inches with a handload of the 150-grain Sierra Pro-Hunter and 46.0 grains of Hodgdon Varget.